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COMMENT #1 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 6/1/2006 @ 11:52 am PT…


This makes me cry with pride.

COMMENT #2 [Permalink]… Shannon Williford said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:10 pm PT…

Hot Damn!To the newstands!Tomorrow!Today in NY and LA!Buy ’em up, advance ’em round! Let Rolling Bean apprehend us in sales! That’ll get accumulated America’s short-term-profits attention!

Let’s Roll!


COMMENT #3 [Permalink]… agent86 said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:25 pm PT…

Jann Wenner too! Buy ’em up faster’n they can book ’em and cardboard the nation with them!


COMMENT #4 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:43 pm PT…

Memorial Day For Trolls

I bethink aback I quoted from Freeman, and the trolls said I was commendation from a democrat. The commodity says:

“Puzzled by the discrepancies, Freeman agilely advised the raw polling abstracts arise by Edison/Mitofsky in January 2005. ”I’m not alike political — I abhor the Democrats,” he says. ”I’m a assay expert. I got into this because I was addled about how the avenue acclamation could accept been so wrong.” In his accessible book, Was the 2004 Presidential Acclamation Stolen? Avenue Polls, Acclamation Fraud, and the Official Count, Freeman lays out a statistical assay of the acclamation that is acutely troubling” (see Rolling Bean articl).

Trolls, this scientist thinks with his brain, despises democrats, and concludes that acclamation artifice is the best acceptable acumen for the avenue poll discrepancies.

I apperceive trolls will not accept this because they do not accept a clue about bookish honesty.

They anticipate bookish bluntness is aback a redneck fundamentalist preacher puts bottomward an intellectual.

COMMENT #5 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:46 pm PT…

One of the burghal belief is that those who did the avenue polls, which predicted a Kerry win, advised whether or not the official account was wrong.

That is authentic myth:

“Inaccurate Acclamation Results

Edison/Mitofsky did not alike accede this hypothesis, and appropriately fabricated no accomplishment to belie it. Some of Edison/Mitofsky’s avenue poll abstracts may be construed as acknowledging affirmation for inaccurate acclamation results. We achieve that the antecedent that the voters� absorbed was not accurately recorded or counted cannot be disqualified out and needs added investigation” (link here, adventurous added).

Mitofsky advised the alterity to be because republicans were added shy than democrats, and accordingly did not allocution to the avenue pollsters.

Mitofsky never alike advised the achievability of acclamation fraud.

That is why it should be investigated. It never has. Why investigate? Because:

“Exit polling is a well-developed science, abreast by bisected a aeon of acquaintance and consistently convalescent methodology” (ibid, adventurous added).

We charge to explain why the science that has been acclimated in elections about the apple for 5 or so decades, and consistently improved, and consistently reliable, predicted a Kerry win.

But Ohio area the arch of the republican acclamation book was additionally the secretary of state, administering elections and recounts, was a adversity adverse to science, and clothed with battle of interest.

COMMENT #6 [Permalink]… lisalibgal said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:48 pm PT…

I bethink alive the acclamation that afternoon and afresh alert to the fizz aboriginal black – all break were, as Bobby K says, that it would be a big achievement for Kerry. The repubs not in the bend were all downcast. I heard that Karen Hughes alike told Dubya it looked actual bad.

The, presto! Somehow Dubya inexplicably “won”.

It was stolen, but the media wouldn’t blow the adventure and boilerplate dems wouldn’t either, which is absolutely shameful.

Al Franken still won’t allocution about it.

Hopefully Bobby K’s commodity will snowball till the accuracy arise out and is acknowledged. It’s about time.

COMMENT #7 [Permalink]… Kurt said on 6/1/2006 @ 12:52 pm PT…

It’s the aforementioned old stuff. There’s annihilation new here. It is abounding of misstatements and complete lies, in accession to misrepresentations.

Just one example:

“Instead of affable the barrage of aborigine captivation sparked by the campaign, Blackwell acceptable acclamation admiral in Cleveland, Cincinnati and Toledo to conduct a massive abolition of their aborigine rolls, arbitrarily expunging the names of added than 300,000 voters who had bootless to casting ballots in the antecedent two civic elections.(55)”

Yes, indeed. This not abandoned ALLOWED but REQUIRED by the NVRA (National Aborigine Allotment Act). Any aborigine on Inactive cachet through two federal elections MUST BE PURGED! The Department of Justice is suing Missouri counties for NOT DOING THIS. They approved to sue the state, but the federal courts disqualified they accept to go afterwards the counties.

COMMENT #8 [Permalink]… Kurt said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:00 pm PT…

More believability —

Go to the Rolling Bean armpit and apprehend the accomplished piece. Aggregate from footnotes 66 through 74 is presented as some array of scandal. It is all according to the exact way the statutes are written. It’s no scandal. It is the NVRA, appropriate to the letter.

COMMENT #9 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:05 pm PT…

Kurt #7

You absent the point of law. Due Process. The 14th Amendment of the United States Constitution.

The kangaroo cloister is annihilation new in Ohio. They are candor challenged there still, and took the rights of citizens abroad afterwards due action of law.

Nice try at acceptable memory, but the commodity believability out that:

“On October 29th, a federal adjudicator begin that the Republican Affair had abandoned the cloister orders from the Eighties that barred it from caging. ”The acknowledgment of mail does not allege fraud,” the cloister affirmed” (Rolling Bean article).

Hey I apperceive bluntness is aloof a chat that the republican absolutism throws about during the campaign, but for the blow of us, it is required, and we shall crave their abandonment for their criminality.

COMMENT #10 [Permalink]… BOBBY KENNEDY’S TWIN SISTER said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:09 pm PT…





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COMMENT #11 [Permalink]… Bob Adolescent said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:18 pm PT…

�A belt in an evangelical abbey in Miami Canton recorded an impossibly aerial assembly of ninety-eight percent, while a polling abode in burghal Cleveland recorded an appropriately absurd assembly of abandoned seven percent.�

I would anticipate a 98% assembly at the belt akin would be abundant easier to achieve than an over 100% assembly at the civic level. Despite the actuality that over 100% of actual Bush 2000 voters were accustomed with abiding to vote in 2004 by the civic akin midnight avenue poll, I was told by the MSM that there was Bush adherent non-response bent in that avenue poll. I assumption you apprentice commodity new every day.

COMMENT #12 [Permalink]… Kurt said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:19 pm PT…


“”The acknowledgment of mail does not allege fraud,” the cloister affirmed” (Rolling Bean article).”

Fine. But the NVRA accurately allows (does NOT require) bounded jurisdictions to CANCEL any new aborigine allotment from which mail is alternate as undeliverable. At a minimum, the regisitration MUST be apparent as INACTIVE, and alpha the two federal acclamation alarm active for purging. Best jurisdictions did the INACTIVE route, but they are aural their statutorial rights to CANCEL them outright. Now if there was a specific cloister adjustment akin that, able-bodied that’s accession story.

These cancellations occurred all over the country. If a new aborigine allotment agenda is alternate as undeliverable, the aborigine is notified to the best of the jurisdiction’s ability, but the allotment is accustomed to be CANCELLED.

COMMENT #13 [Permalink]… Ram said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:20 pm PT…

#10: I assumption you’re the affronted twin…

Brad, acknowledgment so abundant for accepting this out there.

Reading through the article, I’ve apparent about every point actuality on your blog. You accept been on the mark continuously.

And I am so beholden to Rolling Bean and Bobby Kennedy for bringing this to the alpha of a aggregate alertness already again.

It is alarming to anticipate that the affirmation will be destroyed on November 2nd this year. Can’t this country deathwatch up aloof continued abundant to get a complete and complete analysis started afore it’s too late?

COMMENT #14 [Permalink]… Lisa Sarinelli said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:24 pm PT…

To Animadversion #10’s poster:

Perhaps you charge a assignment in avenue polling – those of us who absolutely assignment on voting rights ability be able to advise you a little something!

And by the way, this is not, I echo NOT, a accessory affair or acerb grapes. Ensuring a chargeless and fair acclamation allowances everyone, behindhand of your affair affiliation. I’m abiding you appetite to be assured your acclamation is appropriately counted – as it should be no amount who you vote for!

COMMENT #15 [Permalink]… V. Kurt Bellman said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:30 pm PT…


Mr. Bob Lee, Aborigine Allotment Chief in Philadelphia County, PA, and a Democrat’s Democrat, has said that a austere account of the NVRA and PA Act 3, its PA law equivalent, absolutely DOES crave new registrations with alternate ID cards to be purged, but he won’t do it because as he puts it, “I’m added accommodating to acknowledgment a federal judge’s questions about why I let a potentially disqualified aborigine vote than why I prevented an acceptable one from voting.”

COMMENT #16 [Permalink]… colleenmilitarymom said on 6/1/2006 @ 1:52 pm PT…

Just apprehend the accomplished thing. Fucking hey!!!

COMMENT #17 [Permalink]… Charlene said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:00 pm PT…

Thank advantage for Robert Kennedy & the adventuresomeness & bellicism it took for a Kennedy to arise out like this with the truth.History has apparent it was chancy business aback antecedent Kennedys batten accuracy in Washington, acknowledgment to the bedraggled GOP.I abandoned achievement this will atom absorption in a civic appointment on the answerable of gross delinquency & artifice by the GOP with Blackwell as affiche boy.

COMMENT #18 [Permalink]… Blomi said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:11 pm PT…

So what would arise if were accurate aloft a agnosticism that Bush chic the acclamation and shouldn’t be president?

Then what?

Doe he get booted from office? Do we accept to alter Roberts and Alito too?

COMMENT #19 [Permalink]… des said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:19 pm PT…

#10 Affronted Accompanying — RFK Jr’s articulation sounds that way because he suffers from changeable dysphonia, “a acoustic articulation ataxia that involves automatic ‘spasms’ of the articulate cords”, according to the Civic Changeable Dysphonia Association. (proud of yourself now? do you consistently badinage bodies with disabilities?)

and yet RFK Jr. has the audacity to angle up in advanced of the apple and allege the truth, alive that he will be atrociously ridiculed and mocked by biased bigots like yourself for his articulate condition. i admiration if you would authenticate the aforementioned claimed courage, accustomed the aforementioned situation.

apparently you don’t ache from the aforementioned active ability — no one who has absolutely advised the abundance of acknowledging affirmation still advance could possibly abscess it all bottomward to ‘the avenue acclamation were wrong’. the aberrant avenue poll discrepancies were abandoned the admonition that an analysis into acclamation artifice should accept occurred anon — abundant like in the Ukraine in ’04, where, i’m abiding you recall, BushoCo fought the after-effects because the avenue acclamation didn’t bout the acclamation results. what hypocrites.

for your own sake, amuse go brainwash yourself!

btw, we can all ‘hear’ you aloof fine. no charge to scream your comments (such as they are), in all caps.

COMMENT #20 [Permalink]… Miss P said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:30 pm PT…

Power to RFK, Jr., Brad, All the acceptable bloggers, statisticians, etc. who accept formed so freaking endlessly on this for years! It brings aback actual aching memories of the day after, “Who ARE all those people!” rolling through the majority of minds.

And Blackwell is still around!? Bethink additionally aback Brad arise that Blackwell beatific out a fundraising letter on actionable stationary?

Keep the calefaction on!! No bean unturned…

COMMENT #21 [Permalink]… Jo-Joy said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:31 pm PT…

#18I was apprehensive the aforementioned thing.

I would appetite to be abiding my vote has been counted in approaching elections for sure, but what aftereffect would it accept on the present? You cannot rewind history. If Bush were a appropriate baton it apparently wouldn’t bother me so much, but because he is such a abhorrent president, what would be the end result? You can’t accompany all the bodies aback to activity that accept died on this nitwits watch. You can’t booty aback the accident he has done to our abundant nation and our account in the world, or the horrors that he has perpetrated in our name. If this is accurate I am all for giving him the boot, but how would we fix aggregate or alike annihilation this idiot has broken?

COMMENT #22 [Permalink]… NOOB said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:43 pm PT…

COMMENT #18 [link]”…Blomi said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:11pm PT…

So what would arise if were accurate aloft a agnosticism that Bush chic the acclamation and shouldn’t be president?

Then what?

Doe he get booted from office? Do we accept to alter Roberts and Alito too?”

Yeah… like aback aback we were kids… ‘do overs’ LOL

If the cabal to rig the vote could be bigger embodied there affliction to be measures to saction the accomplished abuse GOP. Hell, I don’t affliction what band you are… If you particpate in ellection accouterment in THIS capitalism you don’t deserve the appropriate to vote in a chargeless election.

How’s about a manditory 4 year vacation to some tin-pot absolutism for the lot of em ;>)

COMMENT #23 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:54 pm PT…

DES, #19, I’m abiding the affronted accompanying could accord a rat’s ass what the accuracy is, and is aloof wind surfing to every action armpit to canyon wind loudly.

Thank advantage these dirt-brained psychos accept the internet aloft which to aperture their spleen, or we ability accept them accusation bodies in the streets.

COMMENT #24 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:00 pm PT…

Kurt #12v. Kurt Bellman #15

The pecking adjustment in law is:

1) US Constitution2) Federal Law3) Accompaniment Law4) Canton Law5) Municipal Law

The Big Dog (#1) has a 14th Amendment, which requires the states, aback administering elections, to bethink due action of law. To the admeasurement a aborigine has a appropriate to vote, it cannot be removed afterwards due action of law.

Sending a letter to accession who does not aces it up is not affirmation they do not appetite to vote in the abutting election, it abandoned indicates they are not acrimonious up mail at the moment.

To booty such an important appropriate abroad from someone, you accept to at atomic accommodated the requirements of account of aboriginal process. The adjustment you declared does not do that.

To accede with due process, if that actuality does appearance up to vote, the aborigine charge be accustomed to vote afresh and there.

You acclamation admiral who focus on bounded statute tend not to bethink the US Constitution. It is the big dog.

COMMENT #25 [Permalink]… JP said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:04 pm PT…

These guys did this not to win 2 elections, they did this to PERMANENTLY CHANGE this country. Until this is accepted and accepted by the masses of Americans, we are headed bottomward a actual aphotic and animal path.

‘I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!’ I appetite you to get up appropriate now, sit up, go to your windows, accessible them and stick your arch out and bawl – ‘I’m as mad as hell and I’m not activity to booty this anymore!’ Things accept got to change. But first, you’ve gotta get mad!… You’ve got to say, ‘I’m as mad as hell, and I’m not activity to booty this anymore!’ Afresh we’ll amount out what to do about the abasement and the aggrandizement and the oil crisis. But aboriginal get up out of your chairs, accessible the window, stick your arch out, and yell, and say it: [screaming at the top of his lungs] “I’M AS MAD AS HELL, AND I’M NOT GOING TO TAKE THIS ANYMORE!”

COMMENT #26 [Permalink]… NOOB said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:05 pm PT…

COMMENT #21 [link]…Jo-Joy said on 6/1/2006 @ 2:31pm PT…

… You can’t accompany all the bodies aback to activity that accept died on this nitwits watch. You can’t booty aback the accident he has done to our abundant nation and our account in the world, or the horrors that he has perpetrated in our name. If this is accurate I am all for giving him the boot, but how would we fix aggregate or alike annihilation this idiot has broken? “

You are correct� giving him the cossack doesn�t disengage the damage� BUT lots could be done internally aural this country. We could alpha by acclimation what the accepted administering has done to the constitution. All that’s appropriate is political will & accessible pressure. Currently we’re all too abuse blah we’ve arise to abridgement the will to protest…

Seems like agitation is one of those jobs Americans are afraid to do� its larboard up to actionable aliens. ::wry smile::

COMMENT #27 [Permalink]… Andrew Ridgley said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:08 pm PT…

Brad,I too was assertive aback in 2004 that the vote was rigged. I accept apprehend your blog anytime since. About abandoned you fought to get the accuracy out. America owes you a amazing debt of gratitude. Acknowledgment too to RFK for active with it and giving you the acclaim you deserve. You are a Hero!

COMMENT #28 [Permalink]… The Bodies God Help US said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:31 pm PT…

They blanket the aftermost two elections, are imperialist warmongers and war criminals. Education and basement of America activity down.

They asleep the Kennedys who accept been compared by some to the Gracchi brothers of Rome.Thanks RFKjr for all of your acceptable work.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracchi

COMMENT #29 [Permalink]… We Count. said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:34 pm PT…

Just accomplished account Kennedy’s whole, beautifully actinic commodity via Raw Story’s link. As I commented to RollingStone.com via their acknowledgment animadversion box:


I am NOT worthy, Robert Kennedy, Jr…

Your commodity is SIMPLY SUPERB.

Tightly and effectively accounting – accoutrement all the best important facts in detail, yet bright as a bell.

Well-chosen quotes, copious footnotes. This commodity absolutely artlessly should agitate the foundations of the enactment in Washington, D.C. to its core. Would Bobby Kennedy anytime be appreciative of his son today. Ted Kennedy affliction to be busting his seams with pride. OUTstanding overview and epitomize of the voting bearings in our country today. SOMEONE has assuredly stepped up to ample the administration exhaustion in this country, and how…

Every analytic announcer in America should alpha TODAY to aftereffect on this abstruse aperture summary. RFK, Jr. aloof blazed the aisle for all of you – and he’s “safe” to chase because he’s a celebrity from a famous, affluent political family, so your accumulated overlords can’t allege anymore, can they?

Every accompaniment in the union, and every maker of electronic/computerized voting accouterment and software is RIPE for the picking. Go GET THEM, journalists: Bigger backward than never.

COMMENT #30 [Permalink]… agent99 said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:36 pm PT…

Brad absolutely rocks. I fell adamantine for him the aboriginal time I apprehend him on HuffPo. Way up on hero scale, and I don’t anticipate history will omit that.

COMMENT #31 [Permalink]… V. Kurt Bellman said on 6/1/2006 @ 3:58 pm PT…


I accede aboveboard with your hierarchy, but acclamation admiral don’t get to say, “You apperceive what? I anticipate this federal statute alleged NVRA violates the 14th Amendment, so I’m not activity to chase the accurately worded federal law.”

In the complete world, bureaucrats charge chase accurately worded statutes, behindhand of what we may abandoned anticipate about their constitutionality. There’s about four or bristles things I was appropriate by law to do aback I was a canton E.D. that addled me as unconstitutional, but I had to chase the statutes until ordered otherwise. Abandoned the Supreme Cloister gets to acknowledge specific federal statutes unconstitutional.

Maybe you apprehend about it. It was alleged Marbury v. Madison. It was in all the papers.

Here’s the citation:Marbury v. Madison 5 US 137 (1803).

DREDD, don’t misunderstand me. I accede with your basal point. Area we abandon aggregation is on area a ambassador can adjudge what to do.

COMMENT #32 [Permalink]… Larry Bergan said on 6/1/2006 @ 4:11 pm PT…

Thank You Robert Kennedy Jr. for the complete best analysis of this best important affair in print!

For the best analysis to date on the radio accept to yesterdays Capitalism Now!

Democracy Now segment

COMMENT #33 [Permalink]… V. Kurt Bellman said on 6/1/2006 @ 4:13 pm PT…


I’ll alike go you one better. There is a area of PA acclamation law apropos restrictions on agreeable of political ads in the aftermost anniversary of an acclamation campaign. The area was declared actionable aback in the 1980’s some time, but it still sits there in Purdon’s Title 25 in every new edition. Yes, there is a TINY LITTLE animadversion in “Notes on Decisions” beneath it that mentions that the law was disqualified unconstitutional, but you’d be afraid (or maybe you wouldn’t) how generally that actionable law gets cited, used, and alike relitigated.

Every accursed election, some poor canton blockhead E.D. got austere by administration that brainless actionable statute on some appropriately poor applicant schmuck.

COMMENT #34 [Permalink]… CJ Cooper said on 6/1/2006 @ 4:44 pm PT…

I acquisition it absolutely amazing that we, as a country, accept accustomed big government to beat us little by little. We no best authority our assembly answerable for their actions. We accept accustomed them to canyon laws that are cocky confined (serve one appellation and you absorb your bacon for life, in accession to aborigine paid bloom insurance). They avoid disenfranchizement of bags of people. We accustomed them to booty us to war so huge corporations can profit. They accelerate millions in altruistic abettor to adopted countries while absolution our own suffer. They acquiesce millions of undocumented bodies into this country afresh accusation us because they booty jobs that “Americans” won’t do? Acclamation artifice is aloof the tip of bribery that is encased in our federal government and not one accursed body is accomplishing annihilation about it! There is no such affair as “one honest man” anymore. This blog is an absorbing apprehend and bold aggregate declared is 100% correct….what is activity to be done about it….nothing. The bribery has roots active added than a behemothic redwood.

COMMENT #35 [Permalink]… MarkH said on 6/1/2006 @ 4:49 pm PT…

Kennedy is accepting on Brad’s appearance a little late.But, it’s bigger backward than never.

Go Brad!

COMMENT #36 [Permalink]… Lambert Strether said on 6/1/2006 @ 5:12 pm PT…

Amazingly, or not, this adventure is accepting no advantage in the boilerplate press.

What should RFK do to achieve abiding this adventure gets the advantage it deserves?

Take the poll!

COMMENT #37 [Permalink]… Bob Adolescent said on 6/1/2006 @ 6:43 pm PT…

He’d accept to buy some of the “liberal” columnist from the “conservatives” who own all of it.

COMMENT #38 [Permalink]… sh said on 6/1/2006 @ 6:54 pm PT…

Excellent article. It acutely explains the issues.Bravo Mr. Kennedy!

COMMENT #39 [Permalink]… Peg C said on 6/1/2006 @ 7:28 pm PT…

JP #25 -How terrifyingly appropriate you are.

But this commodity is a huge footfall appear our award the way out of this baleful maze. Thank you from our hearts, Bobby K…and blessings aloft “Rolling Stone” magazine! If abundant of us are bent abundant that America will not die, we can save her – and the planet forth with her. If not…

COMMENT #40 [Permalink]… JoeWarwick said on 6/1/2006 @ 8:36 pm PT…

Heres to Rolling Bean for afraid to it alike afterwards the abundant and cautiously asleep Hunter S. Thompson who was autograph about the annihilation of the apple barter centermost and the white abode paedophelia ring. http://www.thelawparty.o…erup/WashingtonTimes.htm (the gun he acclimated had bullets in the armament but none in the alcove acceptation it either malfunctioned or was not acclimated in the way the badge address described, added inconsistencies). http://www.prisonplanet….er_s_thompson/index.htmlI aloof anticipation Id acknowledgment this aback thompson was autograph for the Rolling Bean and I was anxious that his afterlife would affect the magazine’s ‘honesty’ stance.The media active abnormally Murdoch cannot adumbrate abaft any alibi of ‘we didnt absolutely know, it wasnt obvious’ because they accept systematically and agilely aimed to descredit, derail and badinage any affirmation that believability to this anemic and systemic betrayal by the government and corporatocracy of the billions of bodies in the US and the world. This indicates they apperceive absolutely what they are accomplishing and are accomplishing it agilely because they apperceive what absolutely happened and they abutment it. This agency their clearing in positions they dont deserve, no amount how they got there.

COMMENT #41 [Permalink]… Cap’t. Awful said on 6/1/2006 @ 8:37 pm PT…

{Ed note: Animadversion deleted. Advocating abandon is inappropriate and brainless and not acceptable here. Amuse beating it off. Thanks!}

COMMENT #42 [Permalink]… Joan said on 6/1/2006 @ 9:38 pm PT…

Dredd wrote”Mitofsky never alike advised the achievability of acclamation fraud” and he’s appropriate of course. And Mitofsky’s abiding not alone.You know, it’s interesting: rightees allege us of “believing” these “conspiracy theories”, and from the actual alpha accept been adage “there’s no proof”. I apperceive I’ve said this a bulk times but commonly affidavit is begin afterwards an investigation, not before. Seems kinda obvious.

Efforts to get out the accuracy are derided as “sour grapes” “bush-hating”, “America-hating” and the like, all absolutely beside what is acutely the point, which is

“What absolutely happened? Was it advised fraud? Who did what, when, area & how?”, all accepted questions which, to any right-thinking person, would commonly appear aback confronted with hundreds of complaints, irregularities, anomalies, allegations, algebraic impossibilities, affidavits, hours of affidavit affidavit and a bulk of experts bouncing letters & shouting “Hey! Something’s goin’ on here, folks! And it smells like the abomination of the aeon anon affecting the actual foundations of democracy!”

You guys who arise actuality & acquaint us how brainless & amiss we are, don’t you acquisition it at all ODD that all of the above, all of which HAPPENED, is not front-page account AT ALL? EVER?This is YOUR country, too. Whatever they’re advantageous you, is it enough?

Assuming that at atomic SOME bush-loyalists are honest, accustomed bodies who adulation America & affliction about its future, it seems analytical that the one catechism they never assume to ask themselves is”What if we’re wrong?”

That’s what I’d like them to consider. WHAT IF?

WHAT IF Bush is absolutely NOT a acceptable Christian man but a cheat & a pretender, ambuscade abaft the acceptance that alot of acceptable bodies absolutely authority dear, booty actively & try to alive by?WHAT IF he absolutely did accretion the admiral through counterfeit means?WHAT IF it turns out that the NSA spy program, allegedly so all-important to clue terrorists & assure the country, is absolutely actuality acclimated to accumulate clue of political opponents, spy on accustomed Americans, and accumulate clay on both for actionable purposes such as blackmail?Would it matter? Would you be adequate with America actuality that array of country?Didn’t we accelerate our kids to action the “enemy” because that’s what THEY do?All I’m allurement you to do, in all seriousness, is acquisition a quiet place, sit down, and anticipate about it.

COMMENT #43 [Permalink]… Joan said on 6/1/2006 @ 9:49 pm PT…

41That’s appealing abuse nasty, cap’t nasty, & absolutely boorish appear Brad. It ability alike put him in jeopardy, it actuality a goddamn threat. Appealing brainless of you.A band of black-clad leftists is on the way to your abode to superglue your fingers to your keyboard, you moron.

COMMENT #44 [Permalink]… Joan said on 6/1/2006 @ 9:55 pm PT…

#25Somehow I anticipate we may be accomplished the point area shouting “I’m not gonna booty this anymore” out our windows will achieve annihilation added than accepting a few band cars cull into our driveways.

COMMENT #45 [Permalink]… Laura said on 6/1/2006 @ 11:31 pm PT…

Joan, Appropriate on to all of your believability in all of your posts.

COMMENT #46 [Permalink]… Dredd said on 6/2/2006 @ 5:10 am PT…

V. Kurt Bellman #31, #33

I apperceive that bounded badge are accomplished in not abandoned bounded law, but federal law. Such as Miranda v Arizona, and aback acclamation admiral accept beneath laws to administrate than bounded badge do, it would assume that acclamation admiral could handle alive what law applies.

Federal built-in law does administer in bounded elections and in civic elections. It consistently has.

The 14th Amendment applies due action to the states, the added genitalia of the architecture administer to federal law admiral applying federal law. All admiral who administer law, whether federal or state, charge accede with due process.

A bureaucrat, as you alarm it, should apperceive what law applies to any endeavor that ambassador is doing. Contrarily that ambassador is abandoned accountable (42 USC 1983) and can accept to pay amercement from his or her own pocket.

Policemen, judges, burghal board members, and every added blazon of accompaniment official are taken to cloister and begin accountable and accept to pay austere amercement and costs.

Happens every day sir.

COMMENT #47 [Permalink]… Joan said on 6/2/2006 @ 5:36 am PT…

Thank you, Laura.I aloof apprehend your animadversion about not active for appointment because you inhaled. C’mon! If politicians let that stop them we wouldn’t accept abounding politicians. Like Brad said, cogent the accuracy is what matters. Forth with, I would add, accepting a blubbery bark to repel the assured barbs from rightees!Dredd,Thanks for bein’ smart.

COMMENT #48 [Permalink]… Tim said on 6/2/2006 @ 7:18 am PT…

For those of you who accept been aggravating to circuit this as actuality annihilation new, annihilation to see here, aforementioned old boiler of evil, accumulate this in mind. Charles McGee, one of the Republican Affair honchos bedevilled of cabal afterwards masterminding an Acclamation Day 2002 plan to jam Democratic get-out-the-vote buzz lines, is aperture his own attack school. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12981183/ That�s right, he is activity to advise adolescent Repubs “all the accoutrement you charge to win.” Let us not balloon either that the RNC has spent a actor or so on arresting James Tobin, one of McGee�s ally in crime. He too was convicted. This illustrates the point that bedraggled tricks and abomination are Standard Operating Procedure for Republicans these days.

COMMENT #49 [Permalink]… molly said on 6/2/2006 @ 8:04 am PT…

I heard Al Franken allocution about aborigine artifice but I don’t accept regularly. Susan Sarandon asked RRhodes on air to achieve aborigine artifice an issue. Randi aloof befuddled it off. Wouldn’t commit. What’s up with that? She will aboveboard allocution about 9/11 actuality an central job. Don’t accept to Air America too generally now so I may be wrong.

COMMENT #50 [Permalink]… Zimmy said on 6/2/2006 @ 1:02 pm PT…

#40 I am too depressed now to alike attending up that about Hunter. I bethink staring at the account for 15 min’s the day I apprehend it. It didn’t achieve sense, I thought. I anticipate I’ll aberrate off and contemplate architecture that fallout apartment again.

COMMENT #51 [Permalink]… Ryvr said on 6/2/2006 @ 6:39 pm PT…

I appetite to apperceive if John Kerry has apprehend this article, and if somehow he is still abstinent the actuality that he won the election. I am so affronted at John Kerry because he bare to acknowledge himself the champ and he still needs to. Our votes matter. It is so adamantine to arise to grips with active in a nation that is not alike attempting to be annihilation abutting to a democracy.

COMMENT #52 [Permalink]… Robert Lockwood Mills said on 6/3/2006 @ 12:58 pm PT…

I’m abiding John Kerry has apparent the article. I’m abiding he knew about it while it was actuality written, because RFK’s uncle Teddy would accept told him. I’m abiding Mark Crispin Miller told Kerry about it aback they met at the book signing, the one area Kerry agreed with Miller that he’d been busted in the election, afresh denied the abutting day (through his aide, not directly) that he’d agreed.

Look at it this way. If RFK’s commodity leads to the 2004 election’s actuality broadly accustomed as a fraud, this is bad for Kerry in two ways: 1) Bodies will ask, “Why did you anytime accept a baseborn election?” and, 2) “This agency Al Gore was cheated, too, accordingly Gore and not Kerry should be president.” In added words, Kerry’s affairs for 2008 crave that bodies NOT REALIZE THE 2004 ELECTION WAS STOLEN. Kerry understands this, and 2008, not 2004, is what Kerry thinks about, night and day.

COMMENT #53 [Permalink]… Joan said on 6/4/2006 @ 11:12 am PT…

I sincerly achievement kerry does not run. 2008 needs to be about the issues & there will be abundant bamboozlement & aberration aerial about afterwards his active muddying the amnion further.Sorry to accumulate repeating myself but kerry’s believability is a anhydrous raisin.Gore, on the added hand, keeps adage he’s not planning to run; I achievement he changes his mind. He is stronger by far than hillary in alot of ways.I’d adulation to vote for a woman, but not her.

Please run, Al. Amuse run, Al.

COMMENT #54 [Permalink]… Blue Patriot said on 6/6/2006 @ 6:09 pm PT…

TREASON.Hang these bedraggled traitors on the accomplish of the capitol architecture as a admonition to the quislings and their adolescent travellers. It is EXACTLY what the antecedents would accept done…I am disgusted by these pigs.

COMMENT #55 [Permalink]… John said on 9/21/2006 @ 5:41 pm PT…

Considering the capital antecedent of the ability basement accepted democratization efforts it will be absorbing to see what affectionate of balloter action Iraq ends up with. I’m abiding it will be a archetypal for despots everywhere. Pre-determined outcomes tarted up with a brighten of chargeless choice.

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